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Assaultman67  |
  Posted 4th Jul 2006 3:18am |  |
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yeah that is bogus ... i would return it too.
BTW ive seen turds that are bigger and more beautiful than that go-kart on that site  ...
and DVL_IAC, usually they classify go-karts and dune buggys by their size and most importantly of all, their suspension ... if it has no suspension ... its a go-kart. If it has a suspension ... its a buggy. |
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| Terminator20 |
Posted 19th Jul 2006 10:18pm |
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OK guys and gals, I have good news to tell! I got my Dirtdog scooter running again !!!YAY!!! 
Getting the piston onto the rod was easy, I lubricated as I went with standard 2-cycle oil. The hard part was getting them dam circlips back into the slots on each side of the piston pin. Kept dropping that one and trying to find it against a black surface was tough cause the circlips are black lol.
After that was done, I lubricated the rest of the piston and lubricated the head before I put it on. Went pretty smoothly and took me a bit to get the carb back on and the exhaust. Now I go to start it, was a bit hard to do cause the oil in the cylinder, which was not much. Once she started she was burning all the oil that I had put in there so that I would not get cylinder scoring apon initial startup.
Once the smoke burned off she ran real good and took her out for a spin. I on purpose road enough to go through 5 tanks of gas so that she would be broken in. Then I tuned her properly to get my top end speed and better fuel efficiency.
I am one happy guy now hehe. I get looks from people wherever I go, you can tell they all want one. |
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 19th Jul 2006 10:23pm | |
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lol cool. Good to hear you got it running again. |
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| NoClanFrink |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 3:27am |
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Well remember that scooter that I was talking about earlier and I said the motor mounts broke. Well what we ended up doing was welding a few chunks of steel under the motor to support it and it was working fine after that up until today.. I was riding and all of a sudden there was like a loud grinding clanging type sound and now the scooters a pain to start.. it takes forever to get it going, you pull and pull and it'll start then stall then start then stall, etc. and once you do get it going all you hear is that loud clanging grinding sound and when driving oil is leaking from somewhere because when you stop and look at the motor, one part of it is totally covered in oil... Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this clanging grinding sound and why its such a pain to start?  Good thing I have a back up scooter. I got another one for a really good deal because it was returned, I just had to fix a little problem on it and it was like a new scooter. Although the kill switch on it stopped working for some reason... any one know why a kill switch would stop working?
BTW This is DVL_IAC but since I was the last poster and I wanted to re post and Goober couldn't delete my last post I had to use a different account because this seamed like a good thread to post my problems and I didn't want to start an new one... I was gonna use my IAmCanadain account but that one isn't working anymore |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 6:30am | |
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| Quoting NoClanFrink | Well remember that scooter that I was talking about earlier and I said the motor mounts broke. Well what we ended up doing was welding a few chunks of steel under the motor to support it and it was working fine after that up until today.. I was riding and all of a sudden there was like a loud grinding clanging type sound and now the scooters a pain to start.. it takes forever to get it going, you pull and pull and it'll start then stall then start then stall, etc. and once you do get it going all you hear is that loud clanging grinding sound and when driving oil is leaking from somewhere because when you stop and look at the motor, one part of it is totally covered in oil... Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this clanging grinding sound and why its such a pain to start? Good thing I have a back up scooter. I got another one for a really good deal because it was returned, I just had to fix a little problem on it and it was like a new scooter. Although the kill switch on it stopped working for some reason... any one know why a kill switch would stop working?
BTW This is DVL_IAC but since I was the last poster and I wanted to re post and Goober couldn't delete my last post I had to use a different account because this seamed like a good thread to post my problems and I didn't want to start an new one... I was gonna use my IAmCanadain account but that one isn't working anymore |
Was the kill switch electrical? or was it a cable?  ... im thinking some sort of cable system ... am i right?
Edit: Nevermind ... i need to learn to read |
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Modified Aug 2nd, 06:36am by Assaultman67 |
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 6:34am | |
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| Quoting Assaultman67 |
Was the kill switch electrical? or was it a cable? ... im thinking some sort of cable system ... am i right? |
I think it was cablem but it might e electric. I'm not sure... I followed the cable going from the kill switch all the way down into the motor, and everything seams fine... So IDK why it stopped working...
LOL The whole NoClanFrink account was a joke account I made a loong time ago. |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 6:39am | |
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if it is a cable, chances are that if you let go of a handle switch or stand up off a seat (on a lawn mower) it will drop the throttle too low and kill the engine ... you can fix this by adjusting that cable so it moves the throttle down more  .
If it is electrical, there is a switch in the seat or handle bar, that if the electrical current is broken it will kill the engine ... chances are the switch is broken ...
Edit: of course it could be possible that it is the exact opposite, if the current is started it kills the engine ... but then whoever designed that kill switch should be shot ... |
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Modified Aug 2nd, 06:42am by Assaultman67 |
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 6:42am | |
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| Quoting Assaultman67 | if it is a cable, chances are that if you let go of a handle switch or stand up off a seat (on a lawn mower) it will drop the throttle too low and kill the engine ... you can fix this by adjusting that cable so it moves the throttle down more .
If it is electrical, there is a switch in the seat or handle bar, that if the electrical current is broken it will kill the engine ... chances are the switch is broken ... |
Well if thats how they work then it would be electrical. so I guess tomorrow I'll see if I can take apart the switch and see if anythings broken. And if i cant find anything then I guess I'm gonna have to stick with my gehtto way of turning off the motor, choke it and give it some gas, that usually kills it. |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 6:47am | |
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personally, i think that the kill switch is for pansys ...
I shouldn't have to keep a hand on the handle or seat to keep the thing running ... problem is chasing it down when you let go .
oh wait, are you talking about a saftey switch or an off switch ... they should both work the same, its just the saftey switch is the one for pansys ... |
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Modified Aug 2nd, 06:49am by Assaultman67 |
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 6:51am | |
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The kill switch on the scooter isn't really a safety feature.. It's just a button you push to turn off the motor.. it's really the only way to turn off the motor.. so its more a necessity, unless you like to never turn off your engines and just let them site there idling until they run outta gas or u need em again. |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 6:53am | |
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well they both should work the same ... its just that the saftey one will automaticly turn off the scooter while the off switch won't if you accidently let it fly down the road ... unmanned  ...
and chances are its electrical if its the off switch ...
when you take it apart, go ahead and post back if (as far as you can tell the switch is not broken) ... and tell me if the button interrupts the circuit when its pushed down (like it should, unless the designer indeed needs to be shot) ... |
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Modified Aug 2nd, 06:57am by Assaultman67 |
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 7:02am | |
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| Quoting Assaultman67 | well they both should work the same ... its just that the saftey one will automaticly turn off the scooter while the off switch won't if you accidently let it fly down the road ... unmanned ...
and chances are its electrical if its the off switch ...
when you take it apart, go ahead and post back if (as far as you can tell the switch is not broken) ... and tell me if the button interrupts the circuit when its pushed down (like it should, unless the designer indeed needs to be shot) ... |
Yes, but I was just saying its not really for pansys if you need it to turn the motor off and its pretty much the only way to turn the motor off. |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 7:12am | |
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No, the real way to stop an engine is to grab the engine shaft and kill it with you brute strength  ... of course a off switch is acceptable ... but i don't like saftey switches ...
i think we spent the last few posts not understanding each other ... |
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 7:28am | |
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yes lol |
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| Terminator20 |
Posted 2nd Aug 2006 4:43pm |
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Enough guys, mini scooters do not have saftey switches like Lawn Tractors...
I can tell you what two of your probelms are considering they both happened on mine and mine is a gonner once again. You said you have oil all over one side of the engine, if this is on the carb side of the engine, this oil is consistant of a leak around the manafold. If the manafold is loose, it will leak gas/oil all over that side of the engine and cause the hard start issue you seem to have. There are two bolts that hold the manafold onto the engine. First remove the carb to get to the manafold and tighten them bolts and then put the carb back on. On mine, I had a sheared bolt inside the engine that I had to get a extractor to get it out! OMG! 
The clanging sound you hear is most likely to do with the cylinder area and the piston is knocking. It will keep doing this till the piston gets totally fu** up. As you guys already know, I had to do a major repair cause the engine overheated and galled and cracked the piston and chewed up the intake side of the head. I would not be surprised if this is what happens to your engine soon. If you have trouble killing the engine when you press the kill switch button, sounds like you need a new kill switch. You can get new ones at www.partsforscooters.com
Here is a list of everything that went wrong with my scooter till the point its a gonner...
Carb filter screw lost cause vibrated loose...
Manafold bolt sheared in engine first time...
Piston and head damage, needed new ones...
Manafold bolt broke again in engine second time...
Nail went in rear tire and is impossible to get the disk and sprocket off the wheel in order to get the tire off to get at the tube. Fix A Flat did not help either!!! |
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