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Spikey2005   Posted 18th Sep 2007 4:32pm
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Hey Folks.

I need some help on how to overclock my processor.
Like, Where do I start? What Program could I use to do it?

I have a Intel® Core™ 2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz

Here is some more advanced information in a screen shot.


I am very aware of the dangers this will cause to my computer, But I am also very aware of the tempature of my computer and what a safe tempature is until its at the "Being Damaged" Tempature.

If anyone Could help me out with an appointed program, it be much appricated .

Thank you!

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sobe    Posted 18th Sep 2007 6:02pm
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Your proc can handle around 50C without damage, it's just certain points after that that it becomes damaging. Also depends on how much the core/die can handle. So, it's kinda processor dependant. I know AMD processors were able to hold up at high temps. Dunno about the Core2Duos.

Anyway, quick little question, did you buy the computer prebuilt from a company like HP, Dell, etc?
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You most likely will not be able to overclock due to "limits" being placed on the motherboard. And, it being a manufacturer's brand, I'm sure they also used ValueRAM, which really doesn't help in the overclocking process.

Manufacturer's place the locked multiplier/fsb on motherboards to ensure stability through their warranty period.
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D2k   Posted 18th Sep 2007 6:58pm
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Overclocking is bad. Try not to do it. it's like giving LSD to your PC. It will like it but it will die fast. Espically if you have some problems with keeping the PC's temp down.
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Assman15    Posted 18th Sep 2007 7:23pm
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If you absolutely must overclock, try not to OC anything unnecessary. For example, since you're wanting to overclock your CPU try only to raise it's multiplier number rather than your FSB speed, as increasing your FSB OC's everything attached to it. Oh, and only OC in moderation. don't go all-out at first, gradually increase it to the speed you want over a couple days. That way you can tell which speeds are stable and which are not.
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Spikey2005   Posted 18th Sep 2007 11:17pm
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Any programs you guys could recommend me to?
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sobe    Posted 19th Sep 2007 2:20am
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You do it via the BIOS.

Don't listen to those saying it's bad... It's not bad, DEFINITELY not. However, it will lower the lifetime of the chip if you do not provide sufficient cooling, etc.

Scythe Ninja Rev. B is possibly the BEST recommended HSF, recommended by top ocers, etc., etc.

Also, purchasing some Arctic Silver 5 will not be so bad either

But umm.... What reason would you have for overclocking? Just curious.
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Spikey2005   Posted 19th Sep 2007 3:23am
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Because im sick of buying a stock built PC which could be quicker but you get those stupid places like PC world, Dell etc who lower the computers speed for cost efficency.

I could easily get the true speed from this computer. I could possibly get my Core 2 Duo to 3GHz at least.

One small problem tho, My computer has "Smart Fan". Only speeds up the CPU Fan when CPU gets hot. I do not like that. I might have to get a cooler installed into this.
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Assaultman67    Posted 19th Sep 2007 3:45am
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Quoting sobe
Your proc can handle around 50C without damage, it's just certain points after that that it becomes damaging. Also depends on how much the core/die can handle. So, it's kinda processor dependant. I know AMD processors were able to hold up at high temps. Dunno about the Core2Duos. ...


I thought Intel has significant issues with their Processors generating heat ... or am i thinking of their previous generation Pentiums
   
sobe    Posted 19th Sep 2007 7:53am
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Quoting Spikey2005
Because im sick of buying a stock built PC which could be quicker but you get those stupid places like PC world, Dell etc who lower the computers speed for cost efficency.

I could easily get the true speed from this computer. I could possibly get my Core 2 Duo to 3GHz at least.

One small problem tho, My computer has "Smart Fan". Only speeds up the CPU Fan when CPU gets hot. I do not like that. I might have to get a cooler installed into this.


Well, you still bought your pc from a prebuilt company that is similar to Dell, etc.... If the motherboard has the multiplier and FSB locked via manufacturer, you will NOT being able to oc your processor. I'm not certain though for sure. You'd have to test it yourself. Set the FSB up 10Mhz or so, then check to see if the speeds were upped via CpuZ.

Keep in mind just because it's built nicely, doesn't mean it won't be limited to no overclocking.

That's why people build the pcs themselves as "custom builds", so you get the full potential from them.


And Assaultman, Intel has had issues with their Pentium4 lineup(Also their worst product), but AMD was the one with the major overheating issues with the entry AthlonXP series chips. It's been solved though of course.
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Mono   Posted 19th Sep 2007 12:14pm
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I've got an E6300 (native 1.86Ghz) running up to 2.53 totally stable, though I only run it at 2.4 most of the time.

I lowered the multiplier on my RAM to get it in sync, so it is barely overclocked at all - the faster FSB and lower multiplier virtually cancel out.
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Assman15    Posted 19th Sep 2007 3:00pm
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Quoting Spikey2005
I have a Intel® Core™ 2 CPU 6400 @ 2.13GHz


Quoting Spikey2005
I could possibly get my Core 2 Duo to 3GHz at least.


I wouldn't expect such a high performance jump if I were you... not if you want to stay in a safe temperature, anyways. ~2.5Ghz is a more reasonable estimate if you continue to use all stock parts, though, I've never had experience OC'ing Intel CPU's so I really can't say for certain.
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sobe    Posted 19th Sep 2007 4:12pm
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For an C2D 3GHz is practically nothing at all though. In my experience with oc'ing C2D chips, they will all clock rather high(around 3.6GHz or farther)

But in all honesty here, the Core2Duo chip will already be faster than most stuff out there as it is without being overclocked... If the motherboard isn't limited from doing so, I'd only recommend you oc if you need it for something.
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Spikey2005   Posted 19th Sep 2007 4:18pm
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Perhaps I give you my Motherboard Information, you could possibly tell me its ok for overclocking...





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sobe    Posted 19th Sep 2007 6:33pm
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No no, not what I mean. But Elitegroup, not a motherboard brand I'd personally buy for overclocking, but I'm sure it can do somewhat decent to probably 2.5GHz or so.

Anyway, that is besides the point though. Prebuilt companies like the one you purchased your pc from use ASUS/AOpen/etc motherboard brands like ANY other, HOWEVER, they add their own settings to the BIOS to permanently lock things so you cannot change the values. Meaning, you can change it, but it won't actually change, it will stay it's locked/original value.

This is one reason I urge people to build the pc yourself, so you have TOTAL control over it.

Only way to find out if you can oc it is to mess with the multiplier or FSB via the BIOS. I highly suggest just upping the FSB by small increments only, then seeing if there is any change in it, via CpuZ.
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