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vibes   Posted 25th Nov 2009 9:17pm
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All people are corrupt to a degree . but most are corrupt only in the eyes of there own moral standards. IE it was wrong to drop the litter instead of using the garbage bin.. Or it was wrong to say I disagree with piracy tho I sent a friend a copy of my CD etc etc.
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vibes   Posted 25th Nov 2009 9:29pm
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lol old maybe I am
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SkipRat    Posted 25th Nov 2009 9:30pm
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Heh I barely play any pc games at all, yet I contribute a ton of files. Should I be removed from staff?
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D2k   Posted 25th Nov 2009 9:32pm
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crazyjack1994 that is an ignorant thing to say.

A formal complaint about another staff member isn't going to do much, if anything at all. That aside, reading your last few posts I do not understand what your arguments are trying to achieve. Go back and read the OP.

@ Beatonator
No, I don't like controversy. What I do like is being able to say something and not have my post edited by someone who thinks differently. Just because admins have the big ban stick doesnt mean nobody else is allowed to state their opinion.

@ Killer
This has to be the biggest problem right now. Stop editing my goddamn posts if you disagree with me. If someone is being a problem then I see no reason to not mention names, if you care so much about hiding names then stop giving me a reason to toss one around.

Quoting Killer

I don't see the level of difficulty in treating others with respect. Goes back to that saying, "Give respect, get respect." And I honor this statement. If members choose to treat my in a manner in which it's acceptable

It seems that respect is a one way concept here. There is no reason for you to jump in for Frank. He isn't defenseless you know. Also, if you care so much about respect then stop editing my posts if you disagree. That just goes to show, that in your mind the worth of your own opinion is absolute and anyone else who thinks differently will be edited to your liking just because you disagree. Just because you have the power to edit doesn't mean you should go around covering up all the issues you want to "protect" yourself from. Why don't you try to figure out the problem instead of covering it up? For the 1000th time.

As far as that, I have to say Frank is the worst. He has his own agenda. Bans, edits, removes, etc. without reason. Furthermore Frank thinks it's good practice to edit posts and put his opinion everywhere he sees fit because he has the power to do so. This is the behavior I would expect from a 13 year old, not a grown man. If you are going to edit someones opinion, do it with more respect. Stop treating people like their opinion is worth any less than yours.

While we are on the subject, the way I see it, is that an opinion isn't worth much if a person is completely incapable of making unbiased informed logical decision. Frank... By the way my first post was talking about you as well.
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Molodiets   Posted 25th Nov 2009 9:42pm
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That's funny. i never had any problem with Frank's moderation. That proves that what is obvious to some is not for others. I really thought you were talking about someone else. Still you should be allowed to explain yourself. On another site maybe. A site made for this with no moderation at all
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SkipRat    Posted 25th Nov 2009 9:46pm
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Haha, we had that before eh . That site is offline atm though, hdd died.
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goober   Posted 25th Nov 2009 10:01pm
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Quoting Molodiets
On another site maybe. A site made for this with no moderation at all

Why is it that we need to go to another website to voice our opinions without being censored? Isn't that the bigger issue here?
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Duke    Posted 25th Nov 2009 11:26pm
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I haven't noticed that much of a problem. Guess I've been looking in all the wrong places, then.
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NoClanFrank    Posted 26th Nov 2009 2:34am
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Quoting crazyjack1994
I also believe that those who are in control of a section should still be active in that game, and playing it regularly on a weekly basis.
For example i should be right in saying that Skiprat or NoClanFrank do not play Red Faction any more because i haven't seen or even spoken to them in Red Faction, for the last 4 to 5 years.

DUDE! I play practically everyday Skiprat doesn't. I just play in one server. Well mostly. When redfaction.info is empty, I might go into rotten server. I don't particularly care for the way they modded the server but hey it's their server. Who am I to tell them how to run it. BTW I am playing right now... Well after I click submit. Friends, just joined Team Speak, so I now know that I can play with "friends" on a server full of friends, most which are on team Speak as well.

@ Spikey2005, it's the people I play with/against that has always been fun for me. It's not the game. The people I play with now, if they decided to move to another game. I would go right along with them. I've done it before. I "was" playing UT2004 Vehicle Capture The Flag. I did however come back for the simplicity of Red Faction. My job/situation has changed with doesn't allow me to play as late as I like to. If I could stay up later. I would still be playing UT2004. I have the next 6 days off, so I might jump in a play UT2004 tonight.

@ D2K... Seriously, your opinion of me no longer matters to me. You have issues man, every time you posted something. I see censored. Is that the way a "grown-up" speaks? I mean a grown-up that knows he shouldn't be doing it. I do from time to time will remove what somebody quoted in a forum that just happens to be right above the post. I don't see any harm in that. Am I censoring anybody ... NO! I'm just trying to keep the thread cleaner. I probably do delete a lot of your posts or edit them. For one reason, you just like to start fights. You still have daddy issues, I guess.
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Molodiets   Posted 26th Nov 2009 4:01am
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Quoting nay
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He doesn't post here very often so you're clearly dreaming. D2k isn't a very confrontational person. Daddy issues? You're really trying to get splinters from that empty barrel, aren't you?


humm look at his postcount. look at yours. Are you sure he doesnt post often. Yoy mean he no longer post often? ( Mazybe for a reason)
as for not being controversial,, i'm not quite sure. I agree with you.
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goober   Posted 26th Nov 2009 4:23am
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Molo - look at my postcount. Postcount doesn't mean that you post a lot, in my case it just means I've been here for a very long time.
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NoClanFrank    Posted 26th Nov 2009 5:32am
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Quoting nay
Daddy issues?

I have known him A LOT longer than you. Now when I spoke to him, maybe he lied, so I might be wrong with that statement. If I am, then I can not be blamed for it as I was misinformed by him.
Nay, you too are another person that likes to stir up controversy.

@ Molodiets, nay's post count is lower because I believe he created another account when the other one was banned.

@ goober, look at my post count. I've been here longer than you and my post count is lower. Post counts doesn't mean anything. At any time, they can be changed.

I still think that this whole thread got started for the mere reason that I closed this thread:
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Simply put any kind posting that intends to lure a member or non-member to another site where he/she or it can download or purchase any illegal copy of any copy written software is not allowed at this site. Those are the rules. Rules are meant to be followed, if you don't like the rules. you are free to go elsewhere. Nothing is stopping you from hanging around here. Site might or might not be around if you leave. We won't know until that happens.

Let's face it, if there isn't a on your name or you aren't clicking the ads, you are just controversial.
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D2k   Posted 26th Nov 2009 5:48am
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Quoting NoClanFrank
@ D2K... Seriously, your opinion of me no longer matters to me. You have issues man, every time you posted something. I see censored. Is that the way a "grown-up" speaks? I mean a grown-up that knows he shouldn't be doing it. I do from time to time will remove what somebody quoted in a forum that just happens to be right above the post. I don't see any harm in that. Am I censoring anybody ... NO! I'm just trying to keep the thread cleaner. I probably do delete a lot of your posts or edit them. For one reason, you just like to start fights. You still have daddy issues, I guess.


Lets get some things straight.

1. What you think of my opinion is of no consequence. I want everyone else to see that you are a poor moderator. Since you are incapable of producing the most basic functions of comprehension and problem solving, your opinion is also worth much less to me. You completely lack any sort of useful trait a proper moderator should posses:

1. Ability to deal with people.
2. Ability to look at a situation from an unbiased point of view.
3. Ability to argue logic.
4. Ability to deal with problems and not bury them.
5. Ability to refrain from resorting to tasteless childish comments and remarks.

Finally, It has always been like you to censor, or cover up something than try to deal with the problem. Oh look at that giant pile of pissed off people under the rug!

2. I do not like to start fights. However, I do have difficulty getting along with idiots and people who say arrogant things. Let me quote you as an example if you find that too difficult to comprehend.
Quoting NoClanFrank
You still have daddy issues, I guess


Tell me, if you are so grown up, what is this?

3. Yes you are censoring people when you "try to keep the thread cleaner." What else do you call it when you remove curse words or text? covering it up? Censorship? protection? I guess it must be something really nice if it helps you believe your poor moderation choices are correct. Sorry, but the rest of the world doesn't revolve around your little personal safety bubble.
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NoClanFrank    Posted 26th Nov 2009 6:25am
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Funny how you "claim" that you don't like start fight, yet you still post here and direct comments at individuals. I thought you weren't going to do that any more. Let me quote something that "was" directed at you:
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If you don't like the rules. you are free to go elsewhere.

Now, is that clear enough for you?
Wouldn't that free up a lot of your time instead of wasting your time at a site that you are no longer a staff member of?
Is this your only form of entertainment?
A better man, would have just left and stayed gone. I mean if he was a man of "his word". After all in these forums, all we are is just words.
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KILLER    Posted 26th Nov 2009 7:24am
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@D2K : I edited your post about Frank, not to defend him, but to disallow this thread from being a flame-war, which is famous on this site. You do start a lot of hate, whether it's now, or in the past, that makes no difference. A large majority of your posts are you being disruptive and inconsiderate. It's obvious you have a personal vendetta with Frank. You've got your point across in MANY threads, not just this one, over the years. Give it a rest.

@ nay : You can be an CENSORED a lot of times, but I can't help myself but laugh out loud (lol) at every single post you make. You are very entertaining.

@ Frank : D2K doesn't like you cuz you're brown.

@ D2K (again) : Frank doesn't like you cuz you're a saltine.

@ Everyone else : I play Red Faction on occasion now. And I have seen Frank in-game a couple of times as well. Doesn't prove anything, but just thought I would say that.

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